howill what on your or there part

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howill on there part was it the fact they where beating you and they could see your boy bits how did they punish you then

Howill

You said your school took day and boarding boys. Did the prefects cane day boys bare? If so,
did their parents raise objections as far as you are aware? I can see that they could get away with caning boarding pupils bare but would have thought day boys might be more problematic.

This long running survey has been quiet for a while. My experiences are fairly average for the time but CP varied school to school.  In England where I live, and went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1987 in state schools and into the late 1990s in private schools.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender: Male
Approximate age when punished: 11 – 17
Approximate year of punishment: 1957 – 1965
Crime committed or alleged: Various; missing detention, truancy, being disruptive in class, etc.

About the punishments:
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Headmaster, Deputy Head, a few senior teachers.
Gender of staff member: All male
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): usually in private for the cane, plimsoll in class a few times
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Cane and Plimsoll
Number of strokes: 2 to 6 strokes
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Bottom, caned across hands once.
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): Over desk/table, back of low armchair if caned by headmaster.
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): Always across seat of trousers in school’
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): Either in private for the cane, plimsoll in front of the class.

About the school
Name of School: Boys grammar school  with adjoining girls grammar school.
Town: Bristol
Country: UK

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: Yes
Do you consider the punishment effective?:Painful at the time but risked similar a few times.

Any other relevant info: Corporal punishment in British schools was commonplace back then. Most parents approved of it if deserved and it was not excessive. Corporal punishment in school for girls was used far less than for boys but some girls received it. Back then many parents used corporal punishment at home but not all did and it varied greatly.

Six of the best,

A good post. What you describe was common although not universal. At the time there was little or no concern about SCP. I suspect subsequent concern began when women started to demand schooling that better suited their needs, and equal treatment. Girls responded poorly to CP. If they could not be caned then, for reasons of equality, neither could boys. Controversy continues as to whether the apparent difference between boys and girls is innate or cultural. Some seem to see boys as defective girls in need of repair.

KKxyz wrote: Six of the best,

A good post. What you describe was common although not universal. At the time there was little or no concern about SCP. I suspect subsequent concern began when women started to demand schooling that better suited their needs, and equal treatment. Girls responded poorly to CP. If they could not be caned then, for reasons of equality, neither could boys. Controversy continues as to whether the apparent difference between boys and girls is innate or cultural. Some seem to see boys as defective girls in need of repair.

My reply here related only to the UK although the tawse was used in many Scottish schools on the hands on both girls and boys alike. What I referred to was from my own experience in the 1950s/60s.The UK changes to more large mixed comprehensive schools from numerous smaller single sex schools may have influenced attitude to school CP for girls, something I personally have little knowledge of.

RobinResearch wrote: Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You
Gender:Male
Approximate age when punished: 10 years
Approximate year of punishment: 1945
Crime committed or alleged: Poor spelling and bad writing

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Staff member
Gender of staff member: Male
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):Class room
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Cane
Number of strokes: 6
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Hand
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): Standing
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): Bare hand
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): In front of class

About the school
Name of School: Hamble Secondry
Town: Hamble
Country: England

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: yes.
Do you consider the punishment effective?: No. Punishment does little to enable a child to learn.

Any other relevant info: Caning was common in schools at that time. I think that for some offenses such as bad behavior it worked. It was pointless as a measure to correct poor learning.

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

Yep.   I was in 7th grade, 13 years old.   I am male.   Got 3 hard licks with a wooden paddle in the office.  I got in a small fight in the PE locker room with a known bully.   But, fighting was zero tolerance at that school.   We were both taken to office to get spanked by the Male VP.  But, for whatever reason, he was not there.   So, the female Principal did it.   She also got a female “office person” to serve as the witness. I was made to bend over the same chair I had been sitting in.   Interesting part being she made us place each foot outside the legs of the chair.   So, we had a wide stance and were sort of locked in place.   The back of the chair was actually to my left (we were not bent over the back as you often see depicted).     I guess this was to prevent me from blocking with my left hand (she was a right handed spanker).    Entire thing took 5 or 6 seconds.   Hurt.   I only had on thin gym shorts.   She then paddled the other guy.   After, sent us to our next class.   Very business-like.

Districts schools from primary to middle to high school grow larger.  In some southern schools such as Enterprise, AL there are well over 2,000.  Going to the office for swats must be like a judge giving a fine for caught speeding.  No time for a lecture.  It is done and over with in a minute. I do agree the circa 2003 Brandi paddlings would resemble a typical school spanking.  The five days of two swats or three days of three swats are creative ways of circumventing the three swat maximum.  A small percentage set the max at five.